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An Introduction to "Cap and Trade" Economics

Fri Mar 9, 2007 3:30 PM EST
world-news, environment, climate-change, global-warming, cap-and-trade, carbon-credits, carbon-offsets, environmental-economics
By Eco-geek
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The issue of carbon emission reduction credits has come up a couple times recently on Newsvine, so I thought I would provide an explanation of how these systems work, along with some of their benefits and drawbacks.

First, an introduction. "Cap and Trade" systems are already in-place. The US utilizes a cap and trade system to control emissions of SO2, thereby controlling acid rain. This has been one of the more successful cap and trade systems to date. Others include the European Union's Emission Trading Scheme, and, at least in-essence, the CO2 restrictions of the Kyoto Protocol.

What a cap and trade system does is limit the total amount of a pollutant that is emitted over a geographic area, be it a state, a continent, or the entire world. Once that limit is put into place, the regulating authority grants the "right to pollute" up to a certain level through the issuance of permits. How these permits are distributed can vary. Sometimes permits are auctioned, other times they are given to existing entities.

Once the permits have been allotted, entities are given permission to trade these permits among themselves. Permits are bought and sold, and in the end the same emission level is achieved, with only the source of the emission changing. In some cap and trade schemes, each time a permit is traded, it becomes less effective. In such a case, a permit that allowed one polluter to emit 1 ton of a pollutant only allows the person who bought the permit from the original permitee 0.9 tons of the pollutant. In this case, the "cap" in the cap and trade system slowly decreases as the total permissible emissions drops as the permits are traded.

The greatest benefit of a cap and trade system is efficiency. If there is a goal to reduce emissions of a given pollutant by 20%, one could simply require all sources to reduce their emissions by 20%, or you could set a cap equal to 80% of the current total emissions, and then allow trading. Where a "command and control" approach (requiring across-the-board reductions) does remove some ambiguity, it is inherently inefficient. By permitting groups to trade their emission allowances, you ensure that the reduction is done in the most economically efficient means possible. This is because at any time the value of a permit to emit "X" amount of pollutant exceeds the cost of reducing your emissions by "X", you can sell your rights to emit "X", reduce your emissions, and then take the difference as a profit.

Such a method ensures that the easiest methods of control are those which are done first because cheaper reductions can always under-bid more expensive reductions, thereby resulting in the greatest total reduction in pollution per dollar spent.

Unfortunately, there can be a cost for this efficiency. Without any boundaries to this trading, one entity could purchase a disproportionate amount of pollution rights and create an excessive impact on their surroundings. For this reason, cap and trade systems tend to work best with pollutants whose effects are seen on a wider scale, where the impacts are spread throughout the system instead of a local area.

Carbon reduction credits are quite similar to this kind of system, but without the cap (at least here in the US). In such a system, those who wish to reduce emissions, but are unwilling to pay the high costs for doing so themselves, purchase reductions from others who can do so more cheaply. In the end, the emissions are still reduced, just from another source.

So there you go, a brief introduction to the economics of "Cap and Trade" systems.

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dreamer

Thanks ECO-GEEK! This is a very informative explanation of this somewhat complex issue. I can see the benefits, and have a better understanding.

I still have some issues about this process, but this does make sense. Thanks!

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Reply#1 - Fri Mar 9, 2007 4:24 PM EST
Jason Coleman

Great article explaining a economic issue currently in the news.

I'd also like to add that, in general, (and in particular with the SO2 example) the users of these credits are industry players as opposed to individuals (think GE, not your family). Individuals do effect the market by switching between suppliers or their consumption choices, but they typically do not engage in the emissions market themselves. There are proposals for consumer markets for CO2 emissions, though, which would provide set allowances and penalties for over-emitting. However, to my knowledge, no such system is currently in place for consumers.

Another point to add is that such open cap-and-trade markets allow environmental groups to put their money where their mouth is, literally. Private groups can purchase emission credits without using them, removing them from the market and effectively lowering the cap. In my opinion, this is a great feature as it allows for both sides, industry and interest groups, to actively engage one another in a productive way, instead of lobbying and suing one another.

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Reply#2 - Fri Mar 9, 2007 4:56 PM EST
profwork

ECO-GEEK: There is real appeal here and I have long advocated cap-and-trade. (I was consulted in prepcom for Kyoto and pushed cap-and-trade hard.) Now, not so sure. See this from Newsweek article, "The Carbon Folly: Policymakers have settled on 'emissions trading' as their favorite global-warming fix. But it isn't working".

So far, the real winners in emissions trading have been polluting factory owners who can sell menial cuts for massive profits, and the brokers who pocket fees each time a company buys or sells the right to pollute. "Carbon trading is a promising strategy for reducing greenhouse-gas emissions," says Dan Esty, director of Yale's Center for Environmental Law and Policy, "but the current structures have serious flaws."

One reason emissions trading is so politically popular is that it's vulnerable to lobbying.

Green taxes probably superior remedy but politically unpopular.

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Reply#3 - Fri Mar 9, 2007 6:26 PM EST
Eco-geek

A Pigouvian tax could have some merits, but that requires valuation of the damages of emissions, which can be quite difficult, particularly when the effects (and the extent thereof) of greenhouse gas emissions are so widely debated.

One specific issue with Kyoto and emissions trading is that Non-Annex 1 (i.e. underdeveloped) nations which are not bound by any emission reductions obligations, can sell emissions credits, but are not bound to actually make the reductions. Cap and trade doesn't work well when you can trade with people who aren't bound by the cap.

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#3.1 - Fri Mar 9, 2007 8:02 PM EST
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Mick McNicholas

Pigouvian? Explain please.

    Reply#4 - Fri Mar 9, 2007 9:14 PM EST
    profwork

    A Pigovian tax counteracts "externalities." From Wikipedia entry:

    A Pigovian tax (also spelled Pigouvian tax) is a tax levied to correct the negative externalities of a market activity. For instance, a Pigovian tax may be levied on producers who pollute the environment to encourage them to reduce pollution, and to provide revenue which may be used to counteract the negative effects of the pollution. Certain types of Pigovian taxes are sometimes referred to as sin taxes, for example taxes on alcohol and cigarettes. Pigovian taxes are named after economist Arthur Pigou (1877-1959) who also developed the concept of economic externalities.

    ECO-GEEK, the strategy of advocating cap-and-trade is to attract entrepreneurs who would lobby for such markets. Manipulation and implementation remain problematic. My partner and I anticipated that Kyoto would fail, politically and efficacy, but that stimulating an emissions market would in fact occur -- better than nothing, I hope.

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    Reply#5 - Fri Mar 9, 2007 10:28 PM EST
    Mick McNicholas

    Thanks. I learned something today. It was a good day after all.

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    #5.1 - Fri Mar 9, 2007 11:19 PM EST
    Eco-geek

    Profwork:

    Out of curiosity, if it was entirely up to you, how would we address greenhouse gas emissions as a nation? As a world?

      #5.2 - Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:56 PM EST
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      profwork

      Eco-geek. Much too complex a question to respond here. A broad mix of policies and technologies. If my call, green taxes aimed at stimulating renewable energy would top the list. Lester Brown, Plan B 2.0, would be on the list, but he does not center on global warming but on poverty, water, energy, etc. The interactions are hardly grasped as interdependence has increased with globalization.

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      Reply#6 - Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:14 PM EDT
      AgeOfReason

      Dear Jim Cramer Mad Money CNBC,

      I do love listening to your show and want to thank you.

      However, I think that your opposition to cap in trade is short sighted. Short sightedness is the biggest problem I see with capitalism which seeks quick profits to it's own demise.

      We fixed the ozone problem in the 1980's with a similar system which put the cost of depleting the ozone realistically, rather than paying for it with higher medical costs later. And the democratic capitalist system responded because they had to with viable alternatives, not as costly as the doomsayers projected then, so now our ozone is being repaired - benefiting corporations with long term and short term profits because there's still a human race alive to buy their merchandise.

      Why can't the doomsayers of clean tech realize that if we put the real cost of dirty oil, coal, and nuclear the price would be much larger due to medical costs, wars, transition lines, etc.

      If we would up front create a new paradigm by pricing failure out and funding the alternatives such as the home generated energy of wind and solar, and the clean domestic energy of hydrogen, then the price for our energy would be much less leaving more money in the pockets of the masses (who would also be much healthier) to spend on merchandise.

      The Government Brazil took the initiative in the 1970's by mandating pumping stations have ethanol, and also by funding the production of ethanol.

      So while we were paying $4.00+ a gallon due to our insistence on free market feudalism, Brazil was producing clean energy at a reasonable cost from domestic production.

      The Government in America since Ronald Reagan has been abused for social wars by those who claim liberty and all we've got is the worlds largest per capita prison population and a failed economy in debt.

      The New Deal Government gave us the Marshal Plan and the GI Bill that created the golden age of America. The New Deal Government and the Eisenhower government made America Great with the Interstate and the Manhattan Project. The Kennedy Government's funding of NASA brought us many new inventions for corporations and daily life. The Government even funded micro-chip production then let corporations profit off of it and further it's development. Al Gore invented the Internet - what more can I say than that about how Government sets the agenda and the rules, paves the roads, and the well-regulated market thrives as it's citizens prosper.

      One of the biggest problems facing corporations, and individuals, today is the cost of health care in America.

      Health care today is more than a couple of leaches or a dancing witch doctor it's expensive.

      This is another threat to our financial and physical health.

      While Republicans have put scanners in every airport to look at us naked, it costs over $2000 to get an MRI or a cat scan for health.

      While free market profiteers have never saw a culture war or prison they would not put us in debt for, they neglect our failing infrastructure and lack of health care.

      Governments can defend us against more than the Red-Coats. Governments are a way for us to organize and get done what individuals and corporations can not or will not do on their own so all can have a better and more prosperous life.

      Those who have given us massive tax cuts in their hatred of government have burdened us with a philosophy of less wages and less personal freedom while enslaving us to massive debt for illegal and ill advised wars.

      It's time for a change towards what works, and part of that change is getting off the oil addiction that threatens our economy, our health, and yes our freedom.

      A mind is a terrible thing to sell short.

        Reply#7 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:22 AM EDT
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